Even the error term of that calculation is 1400 times greater than the "new" energy to which you point. This is place for discussion of the science and you cannot hope to make some useful criticism of science without spending some effort actually understanding it. Lest you think that Daniel's reply is giving you the "brusque off" . He has consulted the Mayan Calander and shamens. There is no new situation being discussed, just the measuring of something in more detail than before. Various quotes from the same source previously mentioned: "“We have discovered a strong magnetic field just outside the solar system. And YES, we are passing through a very high energy interstellar cloud, that NASA knew of since the 70's(!) And yet here we are, with another type of "skeptic," who asserts that other planets phenomena, whose frequency is completely unknown to us, must be due to a warming climate. If you don't, you'll just say whatever suits your already existing system of belief and values, or parrot other sources that you recognoze as sharing that same system. Unfortunately, genuinely doing your own research requires years gaining the relevant skills and detailed background knowledge to not make a fool of yourself. The human race will survive, we will make adjustments and adapt. Likewise the Earth would not immediately express its stored energy especially considering it -- until very, very recently -- has been exposed to a fairly constant and atypical excess of irradiation from the Sun.You're assuming that the Earth -- and rest of the solar system -- has reached the temperature that it would if the Solar Grand Maximum were the typical constant state. Thank you for taking the time to share with us. Trying to remove manmade contributors is not all feasible. This magnetic field holds the interstellar energy cloud together and solves the long-standing puzzle of how it can exist at all,” says Opher, a NASA Heliophysics Guest Investigator from George Mason University. " Opher et al (2009) find that "We find that the field strength in the local interstellar medium is 3.7–5.5 μG", which is more than twice the previous estimates mentioned in the paper of 1.8-2.5 μG. Other Planets Influence Earth's Climate, University Of Toronto Scientist Says. If one sees a trend, a scientist will test it over and over. Mars, Triton, Pluto and Jupiter all show global warming, pointing to the Sun as the dominating influence in determining climate throughout the solar system." I'll add that, before condescending onto others about thermodynamics, you should perhaps verify that the ideas you defend do comply with them. (1997, December 18). The solar wind did not spring into existence yesterday. University Of Toronto. "UCLA atmospheric scientists have discovered a previously unknown basic mode of energy transfer from the solar wind to the Earth's magnetosphere. Neptune: observations of changes in luminosity on the surface of both Neptune and its largest moon, Triton, have been taken to indicate warming caused by increased solar activity. Saturn and its moons take 30 Earth years to orbit the Sun, so three decades of observations equates to only 1 Saturnian year. I also want to point out that although the luminosity of the planet’s may change, this is not proportional to the temperature of a planet or celestial object. Human beings are altering one of our planet's natural temperature regulators - the 'greenhouse effect'. Things could be more delicate than most of us realize.So, if the Sun has such a major impact on the Earth's weather, how much more does our own galactic weather have on our Sun and it's solar system? On Earth, things differ because increased temperatures increase absolute humidity, and hence the energy supply for storms - but that mechanism is not available on Venus. If you expect anyone to take this seriously then please present evidence of other heating sources that represent even a 1/10th of extra heating provided by increased GHG (ie 4W/m2). Even if we removed all man-made contributors driving the AGW climate change, it would only clear up 10%-12% of the problem. But if the sun’s output has levelled off or even diminished, then what is causing other planets to warm up? 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Then we would need proxies to establish the true existence of any significant departure from normal conditions. All this has zero credibility. ESA's Venus Express mission, due for launch in 2005, will try to find out why is there so much carbon dioxide in the Venusian atmosphere and what made Venus evolve so differently from Earth. I must agree with Tom Curtis on this one. This does not stop the nutters deciding the warning is about something completely different. Worse, this is not newly discovered energy. I would also like to see an equally serious reference as to why any weather event on a planet whose climate has not been oberved through a full orbit can be ascribed to a "warming climate.". MagickWizard, you're not arguing for a new force. "; "The fact that the wind is shifting over the span of mere decades means that the interior of the cloud is either unusually turbulent, or that the solar system is a mere 1000 or so years away from punching its way out. Skeptics on Earth argue that the rash of 1 in 1000 years weather events we saw on a regular basis over the past few years are not due to a warming climate. For more details, and for a more proper place to put your comments on this topic, see the post "Climate time lag.". The Venusian atmosphere is mainly made up of carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas. Without this natural phenomenon, average temperatures on Earth would be 30 degrees lower than the current temperature. Something is clearly wrong in the "skeptic" camp. It's reasonable to hypothesize that galactic weather could have a much greater effect on the solar system, as a whole, during certain galactic weather events. What do we do to achieve the least expensive means to accomplish this? Link to this page. THINK positively, and critically! Unfortunately for Joseph (and Jacksan), Opher et al make no claim that "the Solar System has begun to pass into" the magnetic field.
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